Cooling time t8/5 calculator

How long the joint takes to fall from 800 to 500 °C decides what structure forms in the heat-affected zone. It is the parameter a welding procedure hides behind its heat input range and preheat temperature.

Thermal efficiency already applied. If you do not know it, use the heat input calculator
No preheat — use the shop temperature
Two weld sections with a narrow and a wide heat-affected zone, at low and high heat input
Heat input is the width of the band of metal whose properties changed. Trouble comes from both ends of the range.

The formulas in EN 1011-2

The standard gives two, because heat leaves in two different ways.

Three-dimensional — thick material, heat escapes in every direction:
t8/5 = (6700 − 5·T₀) · Q · (1/(500−T₀) − 1/(800−T₀)) · F3

Two-dimensional — thin plate, heat spreads only in the plane:
t8/5 = (4300 − 4.3·T₀) · 10⁵ · Q²/d² · (1/(500−T₀)² − 1/(800−T₀)²) · F2

Which one applies is settled by the transition thickness — the thickness at which both give the same answer. The calculator works it out and shows it beside the result: below it the 2D formula rules, above it the 3D one. Under three-dimensional flow the thickness drops out of the result altogether — adding more material changes nothing.

The shape factor

A joint sheds heat the worse, the more walls meet at one place. The standard captures that with the coefficients of Table D.1.

Joint typeF2F3
Run on plate1.01.0
Butt weld0.90.9
Fillet weld, corner joint0.90.67
Fillet weld, T-joint0.45–0.670.67

For the T-joint the standard gives F2 as a range. The calculator takes the upper value: it yields a longer cooling time, that is, the less cautious estimate — and that is the one worth checking with a measurement, not the safe one.

What counts as a good time

t8/5What it means
under 5 sA quenched structure in the HAZ, hardness above 380 HV, cold cracking risk
5–25 sThe working range for unalloyed and low-alloy structural steels
over 25 sCoarse grain, falling toughness, and on heavy sections distortion as well
Fine-grained steels have a narrower window

For quenched and tempered high-strength steels — S690, S890 — the maker states its own range, typically around 6–15 s, and it is easier to fall outside it than on S355. There the material data sheet governs, not a general table. The same goes for stainless steels: what matters is not hardening but the time spent in the carbide precipitation range.

Where it earns its keep

  • Choosing the preheat. If the preheat temperature comes out high and there is nothing to heat with, t8/5 shows how much has to be made up with heat input.
  • Qualifying a procedure. The WPQR records the actual heat input; converting it to t8/5 tells you whether the toughness and hardness stand a chance.
  • Investigating cracks. A cold crack in the HAZ is almost always too short a cooling time together with hydrogen. Check both, not just the electrode brand.

Frequently asked questions

Why 800 to 500 °C in particular?

In that band the austenite turns into the structure the joint will live with. Fast, and you get martensite: hard and prone to cold cracking. Slow, and the grain coarsens and toughness drops. Below 500 °C the transformation is over, above 800 °C it has not started, so that is the stretch worth measuring.

Where does the heat input for the formula come from?

From the heat input calculator: current, voltage and travel speed give Q = k · U · I · 60 / (v · 1000). Enter the value that already includes the thermal efficiency, not the arc energy.

What if the time comes out too short?

Two levers: preheat and heat input. Preheat is the stronger one, because it enters the formula twice — as the factor in front and inside the temperature differences themselves. Raising the current also works, but there you soon hit the upper limit in the procedure.

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